Odds and Ends: Week 8

Is betting player props better than betting lines? Depends on what you mean by "better".

Adam Harstad's Odds and Ends: Week 8 Adam Harstad Published 10/24/2024

A good sports betting column should be backed by a profitable gambler with a proven track record. It should offer picks generated by a sophisticated and conceptually sound model. Most importantly, it should treat the subject with the seriousness it warrants.

This is not that column.

Instead, this will be an off-beat look at the sports betting industry-- why Vegas keeps winning, why gambling advice is almost certainly not worth the money, and the structural reasons why even if a bettor were profitable, anything they wrote would be unlikely to make their readers net profitable, too.

While we're at it, we'll discuss ways to minimize Vegas' edge and make recreational betting more fun, explain how to gain an advantage in your office pick pools, preview games through an offbeat lens (with picks guaranteed to be no worse than chance), and tackle various other Odds and Ends along the way.

Tracking the Unders

In 2022 and 2023, mass-betting the unders was incredibly profitable over the first 6 weeks and essentially just broke even after that. I hypothesized this year that maybe all we needed to do to make a killing was to start our "mass-bet the unders" strategy earlier in the season.

A solid week for the unders was enough to staunch the bleeding, but not enough to reverse the losses. 9 out of 15 games hit the under, which brings us to 45-44-2 since we started tracking, about as close to .500 as we can get. This means our "$10 on every game" strategy has only been losing the vig-- about 4% of everything wagered, or $30.91 in total.

Our "snowball" betting strategy, on the other hand, remains down bad. We only have $87.84 of our original $160 bankroll remaining, which means we're down $72.16, or 45% of our original stake.

A Better Way To Beat The House

I hope after seven weeks (and, for returning readers, several seasons) my position on sports betting is crystal clear-- you're not going to make a profit in the long run, but as long as you bet responsibly, your losses should be fairly predictable and the entertainment value can very easily be worth the cost.

But it's important not to extrapolate that opinion beyond the confines of this column. I'm writing about betting game outcomes-- the spread, the total, the money line, futures (we'll get to these soon), etc. These are the sharpest and most heavily wagered bets every week. This opinion should be viewed in that context. 

While you're not going to be better than Vegas at predicting games, there are other areas where it's more plausible that a bettor would have a genuine edge. One such area is player props (or bets about individual players' production for the week). Our Sam Wagman writes a weekly feature for us on the subject and he's been on a bit of a heater.

Now, I want to add a few words of caution. Writing about props suffers from the same problem as writing about spreads-- by the time the piece is published (to say nothing about the time it's read), the lines are already stale. Sam is undoubtedly seeing lines that are no longer available to his readers.

Also, even in a system dominated completely by chance you should expect to see runs of good luck, so the existence of such a run is not sufficient to prove the system isn't dominated completely by chance. It's easy to mistake a lucky streak for an edge.

Past results, as the saying goes, are no guarantee of future performance. Anyone who promises you profitability is a charlatan who does not take seriously their obligation to you. I would strongly recommend approaching player props with the same mindset I suggest for lines: assume you're going to lose money and treat it as the cost of entertainment. Never wager more than you can afford just because you think it's a "sure thing". There are no sure things.

But anecdotally, I know a lot more people who have made a profit betting props than betting lines. (I also know a lot more people who have lost money betting props than who have made money.) I even know a few people who were so successful with props that Vegas stopped taking their bets. (Can Vegas do that? It can and it will; there's no law requiring it to accept your bet. If it becomes convinced you have an edge, it'll simply take its ball and go home.)

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No, not these props.

Here's the biggest tell that Vegas itself considers its player props beatable: there are maximum limits.

There's a Houston businessman named Jim McIngvale (better known as "Mattress Mack") who is so famous for the size of his bets that Wikipedia devoted a section of his page to them. He bet $4.5 million on the Bengals to beat the Rams in Super Bowl LVI (and lost). He bet $6.2 million on Alabama to win the 2022 National Championship (and lost). He bet $3 million on TCU to win the 2023 National Championship (and lost).

(Don't feel too bad for him. He reportedly won $75 million across his various bets when the hometown Astros won the World Series in 2022, which is the highest verified payout in history. He reportedly uses futures bets like these as a hedge against promotions he runs in his furniture business promising to reimburse customer purchases if the Astros win.)

I don't know if McIngvale is up or down for his career as a sports bettor. (I'm not sure if even he knows.) But it's notable that he's able to offer a 7- or 8-figure wager, and Vegas is confident enough in its line that it's happy to accept. Vegas clearly believes that Mattress Mack doesn't have an edge.

McIngvale would never be able to wager $6.8 million on Amon-Ra St. Brown's receiving yardage prop-- no sportsbook in the universe would take that bet. The fact that they're capping their downside risk so much lower is the clearest giveaway that they lack the same confidence that they're operating at an advantage against all comers.

Just Because Vegas is Wary Doesn't Mean It's Weak

Again, none of this is to say that you will necessarily be any more profitable betting props than you are betting sides. Most gamblers are not. But in general, it's more plausible that someone has a genuine edge here than elsewhere.

If player props are so beatable, why does Vegas offer them at all? For some reason, Vegas is unwilling to open their books to me, so I don't know if props are profitable or unprofitable on the net. Just because a small percentage of bettors can beat the system (for a while, before eventually getting blacklisted, with the maximum possible damage capped fairly low) doesn't mean that the entire system is unprofitable; the number of people who believe they have an edge is always significantly larger than the number of people who genuinely do.

Even if Vegas takes a small loss on player props, they still function as a useful loss leader, drawing new gamblers into a sportsbook's betting ecosystem so the book can steer them in more profitable directions. (The clearest example of this came in Week 1 last year when Underdog Sportsbook offered a promotion where new customers could bet on Aaron Rodgers to finish over or under 0.5 passing yards. Rodgers ruptured his Achilles before completing a pass, but Underdog paid out the bet, anyway, because the entire thing was always just a marketing stunt.)

Customer acquisition is an expensive game; Vegas likely writes off losses as advertising expenses in much the same way that DFS companies regularly offered contests with large overlays (i.e., "guaranteed losses") early on while trying to grow their business.

Taking this all into account, should you bet props instead of lines? If you think it would be fun and you never wager more than you can afford to lose, then absolutely!

If it doesn't sound like fun, though, I wouldn't bother. The second you start betting for profit rather than for fun, it becomes a job, and I suspect if you calculated out return vs. the time spent, you'd find even most bettors with a genuine edge were making sub-minimum wage on it. 

Personally, I already have one job; I'm not looking for another.

Lines I'm Seeing

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HOME TEAMROAD TEAMOver/Under
LA MIN-2.547.5
CIN-3PHI 48
CLE BAL-8.544.5
DET-11.5TEN 45
HOU-5IND 46
JAX GB-3.549
MIA-3.5ARI 46
NE NYJ-741
TB ATL-2.546
LAC-7NO 40.5
SEA BUF-347
DEN-10CAR 41.5
LV KC-9.541
WAS CHI-343
SF-4DAL 46
PIT-6NYG 36

 

I'm old enough to remember when Odds and Ends was flying high with a 6-4 record. Our second straight 0-2 week drops us to 6-8 and I can't even pretend to find a silver lining. I take full responsibility-- clearly I let a few early wins go to my head. Going forward, you're going to see someone who Buckles Down and Doesn't Take Success For Granted.

Minnesota (-2.5) at LA Rams

I can trace everything that has gone wrong for this column to the moment when I got bored of writing every week about how Hungry Brian Flores' defense looked. I've learned my lesson; readers don't want novelty, they want results. Properly chastened, I will devote one pick every week to the Vikings. I'll call it the "Hey Everyone, Have You Noticed How Hungry Brian Flores' Defense Looks This Year?" special.

This week seems like an especially good time to return to basics; Minnesota is facing a Rams offense that is so unmotivated to win that they're looking to trade one of the best wide receivers in the universe right as he returns from an injury. And the Vikings are only giving 2.5 points? It's a slam dunk.

Pittsburgh (-6) vs. NY Jets

Six points is a ton to be giving for a team with the lowest total of the week (just 36 points, the only game on the slate below 40!). Combining the spread with the over/under, Vegas is essentially predicting a 21-15 Pittsburgh game, which is... aggressive. I don't love the pick, but we're going Back To Basics this week, which means we're betting that the Mike Tomlin-coached team will Come To Play (at least until it has banked enough early season wins that it can coast to a .500 or better finish).

The Iced Coffee Lock of the Week

I don't know what's going on with our lock of the week this year. We started with something that's cold as a cliche, even if it's not necessarily cold in practice ("Stone Cold Lock of the Week"). Then we tried something that's cold in an absolute sense ("Void of Space Lock of the Week") and something that's only cold in a relative sense ("Other Side of the Pillow Lock of the Week"). Yet they've all turned in a losing record.

This week, we're pivoting to coffee-- something that should never, ever be cold, yet inexplicably sometimes is. Will this work? I don't know, but I'm committed to continuing to search for a name that happens to go on a hot streak for long enough to make us look like we know what we're doing.

Buffalo (-3) at Seattle

The pseudorandom number generator has been struggling all year, so apparently this week it's falling back on an old classic-- when in doubt, just take the team with the better quarterback. Honestly, that's super relatable. I suppose it could have bought in on Lamar Jackson, but he costs 8.5 points this week. Getting Josh Allen for a meager 3 points is a much better bargain.

 

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